{"id":4733,"date":"2020-07-31T10:14:45","date_gmt":"2020-07-31T10:14:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/?p=4733"},"modified":"2023-03-22T13:01:53","modified_gmt":"2023-03-22T13:01:53","slug":"love-food-hate-waste-eating-ethically-and-the-impact-of-lockdown","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/2020\/07\/31\/love-food-hate-waste-eating-ethically-and-the-impact-of-lockdown\/","title":{"rendered":"Love food, hate waste \u2013 eating ethically and the impact of lockdown"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/323\/2020\/07\/Lia-headshot-and-food2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4735\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/323\/2020\/07\/Lia-headshot-and-food2.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/323\/2020\/07\/Lia-headshot-and-food2-600x300.jpg 600w, https:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/323\/2020\/07\/Lia-headshot-and-food2-300x150.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/323\/2020\/07\/Lia-headshot-and-food2-768x384.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Lia&nbsp;Moutselou&nbsp;(Geography and Planning 2002-2005)&nbsp;works as a&nbsp;senior policy manager for a water consumer watchdog and&nbsp;is&nbsp;one of the four directors of&nbsp;<\/strong><\/em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/liaskitchen.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><em><strong>Lia\u2019s&nbsp;Kitchen<\/strong><\/em><\/a><em><strong>,&nbsp;a community interest company.&nbsp;Lia\u2019s worn many&nbsp;hats and has been a lecturer as well as a student at Cardiff University.&nbsp;Here she discusses food waste, the food industry,&nbsp;new recipes&nbsp;and the&nbsp;world,&nbsp;post-pandemic.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Where does this passion for the environment<\/strong><strong>&nbsp;and<\/strong><strong>&nbsp;sustainability come from?&nbsp;<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don\u2019t know any other way to be. That\u2019s the only way my family&nbsp;was,&nbsp;and it\u2019s always been important to me.&nbsp;Both of my parents came from farming&nbsp;and small village&nbsp;communities in Greece,&nbsp;and even though I was fortunate&nbsp;enough&nbsp;to be raised in an urban centre and have amazing education&nbsp;and cultural&nbsp;opportunities, my first memory is of being very close to&nbsp;the&nbsp;natural&nbsp;elements and the land.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>What was<\/strong><strong>&nbsp;your time<\/strong><strong>&nbsp;like<\/strong><strong>&nbsp;at Cardiff University<\/strong><strong>?<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I worked on&nbsp;environmental&nbsp;policy and politics&nbsp;projects&nbsp;in relation to marine and coastal environment. I loved teaching at the&nbsp;University. I used to teach environmental law&nbsp;in&nbsp;different departments and&nbsp;really enjoyed&nbsp;taking&nbsp;the same subject and trying&nbsp;to communicate it to different disciplines and students, and&nbsp;the&nbsp;different&nbsp;conversations and responses&nbsp;that generated.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I had an office in the main building overlooking the gardens. I can\u2019t believe my luck that I was there.&nbsp;I loved working for Cardiff University&nbsp;and studying&nbsp;there.&nbsp;It&nbsp;is just&nbsp;such a special university and campus.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/323\/2020\/07\/platter-resize.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4750\" width=\"298\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/323\/2020\/07\/platter-resize.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/323\/2020\/07\/platter-resize-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/323\/2020\/07\/platter-resize-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 298px) 100vw, 298px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>You\u2019ve been involved in many campaigns over the years, can you tell us a bit about&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>them<\/strong><strong>?<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The&nbsp;bulk of my work with Lia\u2019s Kitchen&nbsp;relates&nbsp;to&nbsp;food waste reduction. This&nbsp;started with the&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.lovefoodhatewaste.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Love Food&nbsp;Hate Waste campaign<\/a>&nbsp;and doing local events in&nbsp;places like&nbsp;Roath and Splott,&nbsp;engaging with people in those&nbsp;communities. We&nbsp;collected&nbsp;food waste from supermarkets&nbsp;and&nbsp;skips&nbsp;and then transformed&nbsp;it&nbsp;into really amazing recipes.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Then we&nbsp;moved to larger-scale&nbsp;campaigns,&nbsp;to the&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/liaskitchen.com\/2017\/12\/05\/the-wasteless-diaries-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">Wasteless&nbsp;Suppers<\/a>&nbsp;which really&nbsp;focused&nbsp;on valuing food. I wanted to transform something that could be found in a skip into a gourmet dish so people could see how perceptions of food can change,&nbsp;depending on what it looks like.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-instagram alignright wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-instagram\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CCOx7yLA-ze\/\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019ve also been involved with the\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/vegpower.org.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\">Veg Power campaign<\/a>, promoting vegetable intake.\u00a0I\u2019m in a book with Paul McCartney\u00a0and\u00a0Jamie Oliver \u2013 my recipes are\u00a0in\u00a0there!\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Another project&nbsp;close to my heart&nbsp;was&nbsp;my work with refugees and&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/oasiscardiff.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Oasis Cardiff<\/a>&nbsp;where I&nbsp;&nbsp;recorded&nbsp;the&nbsp;recipes of their clients and volunteers&nbsp;to&nbsp;help create connections through food,&nbsp;as well as educational and employment opportunities.&nbsp;I then created a menu for their food trailer,&nbsp;which fed a lot of people at the 2018 festival.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>In your opinion, what more could be done to reduce waste in the food industry?<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We have a lot of health and safety measures,&nbsp;which is great and very important, but sometimes it can be counterproductive in educating us&nbsp;about&nbsp;what we can do with waste. I think Cardiff is doing more than it used to and a lot more than&nbsp;some&nbsp;other places.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The&nbsp;Cardiff community is very aware, but food businesses need to be helped. Small business owners don\u2019t have the time to&nbsp;always&nbsp;explore&nbsp;sustainability&nbsp;options&nbsp;when they need to survive,&nbsp;employ people and keep things safe. They need as much help as they can get; solutions&nbsp;that are easy to take on and affordable.&nbsp;Councils and regulatory organisations need to make things easier and not block business who are already trying&nbsp;to&nbsp;be sustainable. For example,&nbsp;offering waste removal packages which are affordable and encouraging&nbsp;composting and recycling.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>How do you think people\u2019s attitudes to food and food waste have changed during lockdown?<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">People have looked at&nbsp;supermarket&nbsp;offer&nbsp;aisles and inside&nbsp;their fridges more than before because of shopping and financial constraints.&nbsp;During lockdown, we&nbsp;were unable to visit shops regularly,&nbsp;so we ended up using what&nbsp;we already had.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Also,&nbsp;food became a comfort, an activity and a pleasure to take our minds away from the scary reality of COVID-19. This means that we&nbsp;all&nbsp;became&nbsp;more&nbsp;inventive and explorative. From different cultural approaches, to new techniques and ingredients, we became more open to change. This is a great thing&nbsp;that&nbsp;we should hold on to.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Have you discovered any \u2018lockdown\u2019 recipes?<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I have discovered so many new recipes during lockdown. I\u2019ve collected over 50 books for a Lia\u2019s Kitchen shared cookbook library. I don\u2019t yet know how I\u2019m going to share this but in the process of going through these books, I\u2019ve been exploring new foods.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019ve really enjoyed going back to very simple dishes during lockdown. One of our aims at Lia\u2019s Kitchen is to make food accessible, from both a financial perspective but also in terms of health benefits and time restraints. I\u2019ve been doing simple, seasonal stuff with locally grown vegetables.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/323\/2020\/07\/lia-cooking.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4743\" width=\"216\" height=\"324\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/323\/2020\/07\/lia-cooking.jpg 333w, https:\/\/blogs.cardiff.ac.uk\/alumni\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/323\/2020\/07\/lia-cooking-200x300.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 216px) 100vw, 216px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>How do you think lockdown has affected the food industry?<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Everyone is adapting but I think&nbsp;we\u2019re&nbsp;going to see a massive,&nbsp;long-lasting&nbsp;impact.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have watched with great interest and&nbsp;concern&nbsp;for food businesses and my friends \u2013 whose entrepreneurial spirit is amazing. The situation&nbsp;worries&nbsp;me&nbsp;as&nbsp;I have always thought that this is an undervalued sector. Water and food are the two things we need to survive, and we take growers and food services&nbsp;for granted.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But lockdown has&nbsp;also inspired&nbsp;positive changes with regards to food waste.&nbsp;There are so many amazing projects and caf\u00e9s doing so much&nbsp;to support&nbsp;their&nbsp;communities&nbsp;and those in need.&nbsp;People have been mobilised to turn food and waste into something that is providing sustenance&nbsp;but also creating a lot of other opportunities for engagement and reuse of materials.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">2020 has shown us you can never predict what\u2019s coming. From floods to snow, to political situations and pandemics, businesses have to be operating in such a way that it allows them to be adaptable and ethical. The more ethical and adaptable you are, the more likely you are to survive.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Lia Moutselou (Geography and Planning 2002-2005) works as a senior policy manager for a water consumer watchdog and is one of the four directors of Lia\u2019s Kitchen, a community interest company. Lia\u2019s worn many hats and has been a lecturer as well as a student at Cardiff University. Here she discusses food waste, the food industry, new recipes and the world, post-pandemic. 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